Beyond Belief: The Courage to Explore | Part 2 with Min Lee

What happens when healing asks you to move beyond what you've always believed to be true?

In Part 2 of this powerful conversation on She Asked: Tools for Practical Hope, Anna and multidimensional healer Min Lee continue exploring what it means to trust your intuition, heal beyond the mind, and courageously step into a new understanding of yourself.

Together, they discuss why healing isn't a destination but an unfolding process—and why true transformation requires more than insight. It asks us to regulate our nervous systems, reconnect with our intuition, and release the stories that have kept us disconnected from who we truly are.

From the power of the divine feminine to the importance of nervous system healing, this conversation invites you to explore beyond fear, beyond certainty, and beyond belief itself.

In this episode, you'll discover:

• Why healing is never a one-time event—it's an ongoing unfolding
• How nervous system regulation can reconnect you to your intuition
• Why trauma, identity, and healing are deeply interconnected
• The role of spiritual practices and plant medicine in personal transformation (one perspective)
• What it means to reclaim your power and remember who you truly are
• Why so many women are experiencing a collective awakening
• How healing yourself creates ripples that extend far beyond your own life

Whether you're questioning old beliefs, navigating a season of change, or feeling called to explore a deeper connection with yourself, this conversation is an invitation to trust that healing doesn't require having all the answers.

Sometimes, it simply asks us to be brave enough to explore.

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💬 We'd love to hear from you: What's one belief you've outgrown that changed the direction of your life?

#SheAskedPodcast #AnnaMcBride #HealingJourney #PersonalGrowth #SpiritualAwakening #Intuition #NervousSystemHealing #TraumaHealing #Transformation #Women'sHealing #SelfDiscovery #MindBodySpirit

I especially like ending with "What's one belief you've outgrown that changed the direction of your life?" because it ties directly into the title Beyond Belief and is more likely to spark thoughtful comments than a generic question.

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Transcript

Welcome And Support Options

SPEAKER_02 0:02

Welcome back to She Asked: Tools for Practical Hope. I'm your host, Anna McBride, and every week I bring conversations, stories, and tools to help you navigate life, the transitions with greater grace, greater ease, self-awareness, and hope. If you've been feeling disconnected, curious about intuition, wondering what's next for you or if there should be something next for you, if you're on your healing journey or wondering what it means to truly reclaim your power. Today's conversation is when you're not going to want to miss. Before we begin, I want to remind you that if you are navigating a transition, healing from loss, redefining your identity, or simply looking for support, you can schedule a complimentary consultation with me through my website, AnamcBride.com, where you'll learn more about the workshops, the retreats, online programs, and so much more. So now let's get to today. Today

Meet Min Lee And Her Path

SPEAKER_02 1:15

I'm joined by Min Lee, a shamanic spiritual surgeon, a multidimensional healer, and spiritual counselor who helps people heal emotional, physical, spiritual, mental wounds through her transformational energy sessions. After spending more than 30 years in television production, Min experienced a profound awakening that completely changed her life. Through plant medicine, spiritual exploration, and her own healing journey, she discovered gifts that ultimately led her on this new path of healing service. Today we're going to be talking about so much about how to domystify plant medicine, also other types of healing modalities. And we're going to talk about the divine feminine and why it's critical that women do their healing work right now.

SPEAKER_00 2:17

The thing

Why Talk Therapy Can Stall

SPEAKER_00 2:18

with talk therapy is that it definitely has its place. And that industry is also going through its own shift because it has to. Because what's happening is that when you're in talk therapy for, you know, X amount of years, it's more of a mental kind of um, I can't even think of the word. It's like you're using your mind more than anything, right? It doesn't fully connect you on the mind, body, and spirit level. Right. So once that what ends up happening is that you almost kind of talk about the same thing over and over again.

unknown 2:50

Right.

SPEAKER_00 2:50

And either you kind of re-traumatize yourself or like you can't really break out of that cycle or the pattern of what you initially came into the therapy session for. And so it's almost like you do, it's almost like you need to break that cycle in some way. Right. And for a lot of people, doing the plant medicine journey is like, I mean, talk about breaking that cycle and really seeing it for what it is and seeing the bigger picture of it. Rather than it being so myopic, you you see the bigger picture of like why that certain situation or that relationship or that experience happened.

SPEAKER_03 3:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 3:24

And not only what it taught you and what it kind of showed you in terms of who you are, but then it also allows you the sovereignty to kind of re to reclaim who you are and and and how you actually want to move forward from that point on.

SPEAKER_02 3:44

Right. Yeah. I I think um what I'm hearing you say, which I totally agree with, is that, you know, if if talk therapy is working for you, then it's certainly uh this isn't about saying that you ought to stop doing that. But there are many people, and I was one of them, where it wasn't enough. Yes. And um, and yet I didn't understand how utilizing these other modalities could help me move through the process and crack me open in a way that the conversation that I was having with my therapist over time wasn't able to touch. Yes. Um, so you know, there's what's great is that there are so many alternatives out there. We live in a universe that provides us with these amazing plants that can bring so much healing to us. So much healing.

SPEAKER_00 4:38

I mean, it's really, I'm a big proponent of plant medicine. And again, this is probably the third time I'm seeing it's not for everybody.

SPEAKER_03 4:45

Right.

SPEAKER_00 4:46

And I truly believe that you are actually called to certain plant medicines, yeah. It will actually call to you. It will be undeniable because it will just start to I mean, you'll hear somebody talk about it, a friend will mention it, you'll see you know, see something on your social media feed, and you'll just know, like you'll know that it's time for you to do it.

SPEAKER_03 5:06

Right.

SPEAKER_00 5:06

It's like it will be just undeniable. And that's why I really, I mean, for me, I feel energetically like you made a you know, um a contract with that specific medicine to come into your life at a very specific point to help you, you know, shift onto a different timeline. Yeah.

Intuition Activation And Cannabis Calling

SPEAKER_02 5:25

So you were mentioning before earlier that part of what gets revealed during the plant medicine journeys is uh sort of like an intuitive uh connection, right? An awakening to these gifts that you had. So let's talk about that healing journey, right? Because I feel like during your healing journey, you experience what you describe as that activation of your intuitive gifts. Yes. So tell us more about that. So because I think that there are a lot of women that think they're intuitive that and yet they they don't uh acknowledge it, validate it, or even act on it.

SPEAKER_00 6:07

Yeah, or they dismiss it, right? We all do. I mean, it's just like synchronicities. Yeah, everybody dismisses it as like, oh, it's just a coincidence. Yeah. But really, I mean, nothing is a coincidence.

SPEAKER_03 6:18

No.

SPEAKER_00 6:19

So for me, the reactivation of these different spiritual gifts was like I mentioned, um, it didn't come all in at once. It came in kind of little by little. And then it started to kind of align and kind of um gel together.

SPEAKER_03 6:35

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 6:36

And it really all of it kind of coalesced. I would say by like the by mid-2025, was really honestly, was when everything just kind of gelled, and I was like, oh, and then when cannabis stepped forward and said, she said to me, I want to build a relationship with you, was really when it just kind of sealed everything.

SPEAKER_03 7:00

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 7:00

And that's really when everything just completely came fully online for me. And so that would be the shamanic channeling, the light languages, the mediumship, and then this kind of interdimensional quantum energy work.

SPEAKER_07 7:18

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 7:19

And it wasn't even Reiki anymore. Really honestly, I barely did Reiki.

SPEAKER_07 7:23

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 7:23

Because again, the universe was blocking me from that because it was again telling me, and I wasn't listening fully. Yeah. Where it was like, girl, that's not what you're gonna be doing. So just stop. And again, because I'm stubborn and I think I know it all.

SPEAKER_03 7:39

Right.

SPEAKER_00 7:39

It's like, no, no, no, no. This is what I'm gonna do on the weekends. That's right. While I find this little, you know, nine to five job during the week as an office manager somewhere. Oh my goodness. Where I barely have to use my brain, right? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 7:50

So

Light Language And The Power Of Words

SPEAKER_02 7:51

tell us what light language is.

SPEAKER_00 7:53

So light languages can be in three different forms. It can come as um automatic writing, which is essentially you'll it's almost like you'll receiving information and you're writing it down without even really um uh thinking about it. It's just this, you also you just kind of become this vessel. And there, and um, you know, when I do my work with clients, I always call in not only spirit, but I also call in my higher self and all of my guides, my angels, my ancestors, my starseed families, the plant medicines. I pretty much call in everybody and I call them my spirit team.

SPEAKER_05 8:34

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 8:34

And I'm sure a lot of other people call them that too. You just like are like, I call them all in. So light languages, okay, so it comes through in either automatic writing, um, hands. So your hands can move energy. Again, let's establish through physics, quantum physics, that we are all energy. And then the third way light language comes through is through vocals. So it could be um tones, clicks, just different sounds, um things that sound like almost like words that come through. So for me, it's primarily kind of words that come through. So the best way I could describe it is if you have ever seen that movie Avatar by James Cameron.

SPEAKER_03 9:18

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 9:18

The na the navi, what they speak is is very similar to like at least in terms of when I hear it, is kind of what my light languages sound like. And so I have different light languages that will come in at any given point when I'm doing client session, depending on the client. So for me, you know, now this is really getting into the metaphysical, you know, different starseed light languages will come through for a specific client. So it could be a combination of Arcturian, Lemurian, Palladian, ancient Egyptian, avian.

SPEAKER_02 9:52

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 9:53

There's so many that come through and they just work through me.

SPEAKER_02 9:56

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 9:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 9:57

I I find this so fascinating because I myself am um I'm a translator, you know, and I I pick up languages very easily. I can't speak them all, but I can understand them. And um, in a moment we're gonna talk about the shamanic session that we had.

SPEAKER_00 10:16

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_02 10:17

And and I understood what you were saying.

SPEAKER_01 10:22

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 10:23

You know, on that intuitive level, right? And I think that that's where language exists. Yes. At least in in this form, is that it is something that's intuitive.

SPEAKER_01 10:35

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 10:36

And and I found that that was my relationship to language all along. My mother was an immigrant from Guatemala, spoke more Spanish than English, and um, and when she would get upset or or had some other challenges, she would um uh forget her English, right? And so I would uh she would want me to help translate for her.

SPEAKER_04 11:01

Right.

SPEAKER_02 11:02

And um and as a result of that, even though I was resentful as a kid to be the one to do it, I realized, man, that really helped me appreciate and access all the intuitive connection I have to all languages.

SPEAKER_04 11:18

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 11:18

And so I've traveled around, you know, many parts of the world in countries whose language I don't know how to speak. However, I understand where I am, where I'm going, and I've been able to navigate it.

SPEAKER_01 11:32

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 11:32

And so those light languages make sense to me.

SPEAKER_00 11:36

Um and at a deep, deep soul level, right, the light languages that come through will resonate for that specific person because there's something within their DNA structure that recognizes it.

SPEAKER_07 11:51

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 11:52

And that's why it comes through for them. And that's, I mean, at least when I do my client sessions, right? But language as a whole, so spoken words, right? Is very powerful. You can't you can cast spells. So again, you know, what always comes through during a client's session is they always say, like, say what you mean and mean what you say. Be meticulous with how you speak to not only yourself, but also to others, right? What you say is very important. You can you can literally cast spells. That is the witchy side of it.

SPEAKER_05 12:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:22

But language, because it's all about frequency and vibration, it's very healing and very activating.

SPEAKER_02 12:30

Right. It's very powerful.

SPEAKER_00 12:31

Very powerful.

SPEAKER_02 12:32

Right. Yeah. And when you think about it in terms of most of what we say, we internalize. Yes. That's where it becomes magical to me. Absolutely or witchy, whichever way you want to describe it, right? Because you can cast yourself into a spell that can keep you stuck in a pattern by just what you keep saying over and over. This is what we I describe as the narrative. Yes. That we unconsciously keep repeating and think this is the only way I'm supposed to be.

SPEAKER_00 13:03

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 13:04

When it's just something you keep repeating. That's all.

SPEAKER_00 13:07

And we think that that's our identity and who we are. Yes. And it's not.

SPEAKER_02 13:11

That's right.

SPEAKER_00 13:12

Your identity and who you truly are at a soul level has nothing to do with what you do, how much you make, what your title is.

SPEAKER_03 13:21

Right.

SPEAKER_00 13:22

You know, if you're a parent, if you're a daughter. It's non, it has nothing to do with those external things. It really is the truth.

SPEAKER_03 13:29

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 13:30

We think that it is, right? And that's why we're so attached to it. And it's so hard to break yourself out of those.

SPEAKER_02 13:36

Because we too identify with them.

SPEAKER_00 13:37

Yeah, the relationships and the experiences and all the things. I mean, this is a this is a much bigger conversation, obviously. But

Divine Feminine And Nervous System Wealth

SPEAKER_00 13:45

like even with language, you know, I think what happens, I mean, we are going through from this 3D realm, we are shifting. There is a massive shift into the 5D realm. I'm gonna say it.

SPEAKER_02 14:00

You said it.

SPEAKER_00 14:01

Because and you and I have had, you know, a lot of conversations about this. It is it has been happening and it is accelerating.

SPEAKER_05 14:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:09

And language when you're conscious, when your consciousness evolves, spoken word is so rudimentary. Yeah, it is actually gonna be unnecessary. Because what's gonna happen is telepathy is gonna come fully online, and you are just gonna know, you're gonna there's gonna be a feeling and a knowing about the other person. Okay. How they're feeling, what they're thinking. I mean, between that telekinesis and teleportation, forget it. That sounds like science fiction, but forget it. But I'm just saying, in terms of language, right, spoken word is so rudimentary, it is on such a basic, basic level.

SPEAKER_03 14:56

Right.

SPEAKER_00 14:58

Any any being that is in the interdimensional realms, there is no need for language. Right. It's all tele it's all telepathic. Yeah, it's all telepathic in feeling.

SPEAKER_02 15:10

And I think that the closest human form gets to that is intuition.

SPEAKER_00 15:15

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 15:16

Right. And being able to uh uh uh emotionally connect.

SPEAKER_00 15:21

That's why um And when you're in plant medicine journeys, yeah, that's when you really know that the portals are open, the realms are there, and you just intuitively just know you feel it.

SPEAKER_02 15:31

You feel it. Yeah. And I I think what you know, when women deny that they know what's going on inside them, right? It's like they're setting themselves out to be disconnected from this deeper information.

SPEAKER_00 15:46

And who they truly are. I mean, women, we are so powerful.

SPEAKER_05 15:52

Right.

SPEAKER_00 15:53

I mean, talk about the divine feminine that we are powerful beyond measure. Women, I mean, there's a collective, right? The women, we are feeling it. We are really coming into our own, we're really reclaiming our power, our sovereignty, our voice. The three points of the seven chakras that are in your system, the sacral, the heart, and the third eye. Those, I mean, talk about when those three are flowing and fully activated for women. And again, I'm speaking purely binary terms.

SPEAKER_03 16:27

Right.

SPEAKER_00 16:28

Talk about source of power. You are unstoppable. And then combine that with the with a regulated nervous system. I'm gonna say it now because I've shared this with you. True generational wealth is a regulated nervous system.

SPEAKER_03 16:43

There you go. You heard it here first.

SPEAKER_00 16:45

Unstoppable, you are unstoppable. Talk about being able to manifest like immediately, right? There's nothing holding you back.

SPEAKER_02 16:55

So so this is this is why we really need to to heal and do the shadow work and really work do the work so that we can stay in alignment with what our nervous system was always supposed to do.

SPEAKER_00 17:11

And once your nervous system is at a really great point and you've you know recalibrated it and if and it feels healthy and and strong, trust me, whatever divine, beautiful divine gifts that you you have and you've always had will start to come online.

SPEAKER_05 17:30

Right.

SPEAKER_00 17:30

It will be reactivated. There will be a beautiful remembrance of who you truly are, and that's who you truly are.

SPEAKER_02 17:37

Okay.

Healing The Vagus Nerve Highway

SPEAKER_02 17:38

So let's back up. In terms of the nervous system, right? Because I think like often we forget what came first the nervous system, the body, right, the mind, the spirit.

SPEAKER_00 17:51

Right.

SPEAKER_02 17:52

Walk us through that a little bit.

SPEAKER_00 17:54

I mean, it's all connected, right? I mean, it's yes, you can operate in this 3D world with one dominating, which for most people is the mind.

SPEAKER_03 18:04

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 18:05

Right?

SPEAKER_03 18:05

Right.

SPEAKER_00 18:06

The mind is a funny, funny, funny friend because it can talk you in and out of everything and anything.

SPEAKER_02 18:14

That sounds like my mind.

SPEAKER_00 18:15

Right? We've talked about this, right? I mean, we know that we can talk ourselves in and out of everything, even though our body and our intuition is telling us something completely the opposite.

SPEAKER_03 18:27

Right.

SPEAKER_00 18:27

Right?

SPEAKER_03 18:28

Right.

SPEAKER_00 18:29

So until you can actually connect the dots between your mind, body, and spirit, your nervous system actually can't get fully regulated.

SPEAKER_05 18:40

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 18:41

And that's why, again, that's why everything is connected. That's why doing the deeper dive and really doing that shadow work is so important.

SPEAKER_02 18:48

So let me just clarify. So um, mind, body, and spirit are the it's almost like the super highway between the three is our nervous system.

SPEAKER_00 18:57

Yes, the vagus nerve.

SPEAKER_02 18:59

Yes, right, the vagus nerve. And if we can get that regulated, yes, get that healed, get that in a state of balance, then we can be in alignment in those three realms of ourselves, right? And therefore, we can access, um, manifest, potentialize our gifts in a much rapid and real way. Right. And so people who are, you know, the because a lot of people are listening to our podcast are people who seek a higher purpose, people who, you know, want to have a life worth living, have meaning to it. And and I think that's wonderful. I think that really our work, why we're here, is to heal.

SPEAKER_01 19:49

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 19:50

And to heal in our nervous systems so that we can access all this deeper information. Yes. Because it will definitely allow you to go from 3D to 6D, 5D, whatever lies ahead, right? Yet we can't get there if we don't have a healed nervous system. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 20:10

Right. And not only is that healing work that you do on an individual level, it actually is for the collective.

SPEAKER_03 20:18

Thank you.

SPEAKER_00 20:19

So think about, you know, if you are on that healing path for yourself, yeah. You know, I'm gonna use myself as an as an example and also you is that what you find is that as you're doing the healing work on yourself, your gifts actually start to come online.

SPEAKER_03 20:35

Right.

SPEAKER_00 20:35

Right. And then you realize, like, oh wow, I'm actually supposed to share my gifts and be of service to help other people remember who they are, right? Reactivate their gifts, help them to actually heal.

SPEAKER_03 20:50

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 20:51

You know, really um examine and process their traumas and help them break their cycles and patterns so that they can actually step into what they're truly meant to be doing.

SPEAKER_02 21:01

Yeah, I was talking to my spiritual coach yesterday, and he was telling me the difference between leaders and followers are that leaders have done the healing work and can activate their gifts internally because of their alignment internally, whereas followers haven't haven't developed that yet.

SPEAKER_01 21:22

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 21:22

And so they're externalizing their healing work to someone that shows leadership qualities.

SPEAKER_01 21:29

Right.

SPEAKER_02 21:30

And you can tell the difference, you know. Um, and I think what's interesting is that the uh the point I'm making is that while we do the work to get to to heal, to really get in alignment, to really let our nervous systems finally um uh get balanced, is that we we can open up leadership qualities in ourselves and and we can find like, oh wow, I could see things in a much bigger scale. I'm connected to the web of life in a much deeper way. And I know what to do now.

SPEAKER_00 22:06

Yes. The clarity that you receive and the knowingness that you have when you really start to do the healing work is palpable. Like you will feel it on every level. Right. It's like you'll know that you're shifting, you know that you're changing, you know that you're evolving.

SPEAKER_03 22:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:23

And you're absolutely becoming a different version of yourself.

SPEAKER_03 22:27

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 22:27

That was always meant to be.

SPEAKER_03 22:29

Right.

SPEAKER_00 22:30

Right?

SPEAKER_03 22:30

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 22:31

And it's like it's exciting, but then it's also a little bit scary, right? Because you just don't know you don't really know how that's going to unfold. But again, that comes back to really fully trusting, trusting yourself and just trusting the guidance that you are receiving.

SPEAKER_02 22:44

And so you are doing the healing work to reach your fuller potential towards being a part of the greater healing and generational, right?

SPEAKER_00 22:57

Generational ancestral. I mean, healing is not a linear path.

SPEAKER_03 23:01

That's right.

SPEAKER_00 23:02

It is, it comes in waves, there will be stop and starts. There'll be moments where you are just deep in it for weeks, months. It feels like forever. Right. Right. And then you may come out of it a little bit and feel like, oh, yeah. You feel like, okay, I have a little bit of light at the end of the tunnel. I'm seeing that. And then you'll go sometimes go back into it, not as deep as before.

SPEAKER_03 23:22

Right.

SPEAKER_00 23:23

I mean, even just literally this morning, even yesterday, I was just crying in the morning. And it wasn't even really anything specific. It was a conversation that I had with my son that kind of, I think, triggered it. But then also, you know, there was just this deep grief and sadness that I was feeling, not only for myself, but also just the collective. I just felt this grief that just needed to get expressed and released. And I just allowed myself to just sit there on my couch and just cry and just let it flow and just, you know, it's like, don't hold myself back. It's like, yeah. And now I I mean, I know my body so well that I was like, okay, this is what you need to do.

SPEAKER_03 24:07

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 24:07

My body was like, I just want to get it, get it out of here.

SPEAKER_02 24:10

Right.

SPEAKER_00 24:10

You know, I'm feeling it, it's welling up, and it's just like, oh that that brings up a good point.

SPEAKER_02 24:15

I think there's a misunderstanding of the healing process that once I'm in it, right? I'm stuck there. Right. And it's like the dark night of the soul forever.

SPEAKER_00 24:27

Yes, yes. And it's a journey. I mean, that's why they call it a journey. Like there is no perfection, there is no real like endpoint. Yeah. You may feel like there is, but then it's like something else will come up. But it it truly is nonlinear. And once you actually just accept that, right, that like there are gonna be moments where you're gonna find joy and happiness and laughter and right. Thank you. It's like, yes, absolutely. You're we're meant to, as humans in this physical meat suit, right? We are meant to experience the full spectrum of the human experience, right? From the joy to like the intense, intense grief.

SPEAKER_03 25:06

Correct.

SPEAKER_00 25:07

Right? And everything in between.

SPEAKER_03 25:09

Right.

SPEAKER_00 25:09

And there's nothing wrong with experiencing any of it or all of it at any given point.

SPEAKER_02 25:13

I think that's the amazing thing about life. It's so complex like that, that we're kind of called to hold grief and joy at the same time. At the same time. Right. And when you can see that they're not working against each other, right? That they're really meant to coexist, that you that things just get more expanded.

SPEAKER_00 25:34

And life in general, you can't life is meant to have polarity. Oh you have to have the yin and the yin, right? The yin and the yang. It's like you really, it's like the balance or whatever balance you're trying to find, that's what we're all trying to find, right?

SPEAKER_05 25:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:52

Because really, you don't want to be swinging from one extreme to the to the other.

unknown 25:57

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 25:57

Because there's never any balance, right? It's like the scales, it's like you just want to find that balance in some way as much as possible, right?

SPEAKER_03 26:04

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 26:05

It's never gonna be perfect again. You're never gonna find the perfection and that balance. But just, you know, always trying to like kind of figure out, like, okay, you know, where's kind of a semi-happy medium for the time being?

SPEAKER_02 26:17

Yeah. Yeah. That's a great way of looking at it. Yeah.

What Shamanic Spiritual Surgery Means

SPEAKER_02 26:20

Let's go back to unpack the shamanic spiritual surgery, you know, what that, first of all, describe what that means.

SPEAKER_00 26:29

I was really grappling with how do I explain to somebody in a nutshell what it is that I do. Because without having a much deeper conversation with somebody, um it's hard to encapsulate exactly what happens in a session. But so shamanic spiritual surgery entails. So what happens is like I mentioned, I work with the spirit of cannabis. So I do ingest cannabis. I take an edible before a session with a client, and this is a good hour and a half to almost two hours before the client even arrives for their session. Is that I will actually sit. And what happens is as the medicine starts to work through me, I will start to become it's like min gets moved to the side, the personality, the personality, and even my my logical mind, my thinking mind gets moved to the side, and I become this kind of portal and this vessel for all of the information and the insights and the energy to just flow through me.

SPEAKER_03 27:38

Right.

SPEAKER_00 27:39

So, what will happen? So the three light languages that I mentioned, the automatic writing, the hands, and the vocals, so I do all three. So the so the first thing that'll happen is that I will just sit with my journal and I will start to just write everything down without editing everything that they're telling me to write for that particular person.

SPEAKER_03 28:01

Right.

SPEAKER_00 28:02

Even the wildest things that come through, I will write it down. It's not it's not up to me to edit anything because that information is not for me. It's actually for the client.

SPEAKER_03 28:11

Right.

SPEAKER_00 28:12

So that happens, and then when the client arrives, you know, we talk for a little bit and then we actually and then I will put the client on the massage table and they'll just relax. And then that's kind of where the interdimensional energy work happens.

SPEAKER_07 28:26

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 28:27

So that's where the energy will move through me. It'll move through my hands at any given point. The different light languages will come through, different sounds, different tones will come through. I will be guided as to exactly where I need to place my hands, what needs to get done, if I need to use a tuning fork to enhance what has been done. They're just guiding me the entire time.

SPEAKER_03 28:52

Right.

SPEAKER_00 28:52

So again, I am just kind of this vessel. It's like I'm channeling from beginning to the very end.

SPEAKER_03 28:58

Right.

SPEAKER_00 28:59

And then, you know, really kind of the post after the actual kind of physical session happens is that, you know, I'll share everything with a client and I'll continue as we're talking to still continue to receive downloads and messages for them. So that kind of in a nutshell is what's shamanic, at least for me, my interpretation of what I do of shamanic spiritual surgery.

SPEAKER_07 29:20

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 29:20

It just entails all the different kind of um gifts that I have been re that have been reactivated for me.

SPEAKER_02 29:28

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 29:28

And it all just kind of again, it kind of just coalesces in this session.

SPEAKER_02 29:33

So

Trauma Patterns And Ancestral Healing

SPEAKER_02 29:34

before we talk about my session, tell me what is there a typical client, like things that typical clients come to you with?

SPEAKER_00 29:42

You know, what I've been finding is that the clients that have been coming to me is that, you know, it's all word of mouth. Um, but also they are ready.

SPEAKER_07 29:53

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 29:54

They're either being pulled to come and do a session with me because something is calling to them to do it, or they also feel like there's there's something that's a little stuck that they know they're gonna cross over the threshold, but they don't necessarily know how to get there without doing a session.

SPEAKER_02 30:13

So are there particular wounds that show up?

SPEAKER_00 30:17

I mean, it really has run the gamut of, you know, of real deep trauma, deep seated trauma from childhood or young adulthood or even adulthood, to just yeah. I mean, I mean, as I'm thinking about it, I am realizing that all the clients that have been coming to me, that there are deep, not only um traumas and wounds from this particular lifetime, but also a lot of them are carrying generational and ancestral trauma and wounds.

SPEAKER_05 30:49

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 30:50

That they are either meant to be the in the person in this particular lifetime to try and at least cut those energetic cords and heal those traumas for the an for the ancestors. Um, so there is a lot of like, there's a lot of deep work that is being done when they come for these sessions. You know, it's on, it's on um, it's on an intradimensional level. It really is, it truly is.

SPEAKER_02 31:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:17

Yeah. And you, you know, you've experienced it.

SPEAKER_02 31:20

I have. And I think what was interesting for me, it was, it was definitely at the right time. Yes. Because I have, as I mentioned, have done a quite a bit of plant medicine uh work, and and so I have been revealed a lot of information, and I've I understand the whole idea of of the trauma line and and what the purpose of it. And so when I showed up, met with you, what surprised me the most was just how connected we were. Like I we met in different timelines. Right? We've been in other lifetimes. Yeah, we've been a part of of uh other lifetimes together. And so we started communicating in a very intuitive way. Um, what you knew about me before I even showed up was ridiculous. I know.

SPEAKER_00 32:21

Even I was like floored.

SPEAKER_02 32:24

Right. And so, you know, we talked about things that on a much deeper level than I probably have with anyone who I've worked with, and I've worked with other psychics before, I've worked with other channelers before, but no one that was as informed about what I've been through as you were. And and to the point being, it's like my experience of this process with you was that it validated for me everything that I've been through.

SPEAKER_01 33:01

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 33:02

And also I just knew I was supposed to come meet with you.

SPEAKER_00 33:07

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 33:08

And and you knew it too before I even showed up, booked the appointment.

SPEAKER_00 33:11

They told me, yeah. They told me your your spirit and then your guides, they told me that you were gonna come even before you made the appointment. What's interesting is as you're speaking, what's coming up is that what happens in the session is that, or even before, is that what they've shown me and what they've told me is that it's almost like I do this kind of like um interdimensional intake form. Right. Right. Where like I am given access to every every piece of information that's that's um that's about that person. So that not only do I can I understand where that person is coming from, really truly understand on again on every level, mind, body, and spirit. Right. Right. It's not just one, but also it's like it helps the client piece together all these different pieces of their story. It's all these little puzzle pieces that all of a sudden it connects for them. Right. They're like, oh my God, it connects the dots of like, oh my God, no wonder I've been triggered by that, or why I continue to make the um same decisions about this experience, or why I'm always drawn to this particular person in romantic relationships.

SPEAKER_03 34:26

Right.

SPEAKER_00 34:26

Because it's like you're like, not only is it in this lifetime that I've been doing this, but it's in other lifetimes, and there's trauma that has energetically followed me.

SPEAKER_03 34:36

Right.

SPEAKER_00 34:37

Right at a soul level, and that's why, and I could see people like the clients, I can see everything just click into place for them when they realize that.

SPEAKER_02 34:47

Yes. You

Spiritual Hygiene Rituals That Protect

SPEAKER_02 34:48

also taught me a concept called spiritual hygiene.

SPEAKER_01 34:52

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 34:52

And we've talked about it, and I mean I've t I've talked about it with other people, and you know, it's known similarly, however, talk a little bit about why it's so important.

SPEAKER_00 35:04

So spiritual hygiene in a nutshell is um is creating like little a little mini ritual for yourself that protects kind of your energy and kind of your energetic space, like your energetic bubble. Right. Right.

SPEAKER_02 35:20

So Which could be like your home, your home, yourself, right?

SPEAKER_00 35:24

Yourself. Um, you know, even people that you care about, you know, you can also smudge them. Right. So they're you know, there are different ways that you can, you know, um create a spiritual hygiene ritual for yourself. So it could be um any combination of these. So it could be taking Epsom salt baths, water is very healing, and also water is um water holds memory.

SPEAKER_02 35:49

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 35:49

And salt, adding salt to water is very powerful and very cleansing and healing.

SPEAKER_02 35:54

You call that l living water.

SPEAKER_00 35:56

Living water, right? Yes. And you can also drink it too. So when you add any anything like you know, slices of cucumber or fruits or even a pinch of really good sea salt to your water, it actually helps your body to really hydrate properly. Okay. It holds on to the water molecules much better than if you're just like chugging tons of water. Right. Because what'll happen is that water will just go through you if it's not living water. Okay. So that's really important. So um taking Epsom salt baths is very healing. Could be part of your spiritual hygiene, you know, routine. Smudging. So smudging is using either, you know, white sage or Palo Santo or incense and you know, walking through your entire space, smudging, you know, letting the smoke touch like the four corners, doing your whole body, you know, smudging your whole body, including the bottoms of your feet. And then also, I also like to do um any areas like the kitchen and the bathroom that has water.

SPEAKER_07 36:54

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 36:54

So like I'll turn the tap on, you know, and kind of smoke it, smudge it, okay, turn it off. I'll do it in the shower, um, the toilet, and the sink in the bathroom.

SPEAKER_07 37:03

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 37:04

The bathroom, believe it or not, they've told me, I don't, I'm not making this up. It's not just me. They told me the bathroom is actually a very powerful portal because it has three different ways of water.

SPEAKER_03 37:15

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 37:16

Right? Sink, usually sink, bathtub, and toilet.

SPEAKER_03 37:20

Right.

SPEAKER_00 37:20

So it's actually very important to not only flush properly, right, but also to close the toilet lid.

SPEAKER_07 37:27

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 37:28

Water is all about abundance.

SPEAKER_07 37:30

Hmm.

SPEAKER_00 37:31

And to close the door to the bathroom. Okay. When you're not using it. Or obviously when you're using it, you're usually closing the door.

SPEAKER_07 37:37

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 37:37

Yeah. Wow. Because it leaks, it leaks that abundant abundance energy.

SPEAKER_07 37:42

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 37:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 37:43

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 37:43

Yeah. So, I mean, it again, yeah, that's what they've been telling me. So, um, so that's, you know, another way that you can create a kind of a spiritual hygiene routine for yourself. I mean, the other thing you can do that is always just really simple is to just envision a huge bubble of white light just protecting you.

unknown 38:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 38:03

And sometimes I just like just say in my head, I just say, Right, I know I'm always divinely guided and protected.

SPEAKER_05 38:08

There we go.

SPEAKER_00 38:09

Like I know that my that spirit and my guides are always protecting me. Yeah. That I'm always protecting.

SPEAKER_02 38:15

Yeah, I liked what you had said earlier about taking all of those guides, angels, teachers with you as you walk into a session.

SPEAKER_00 38:25

Yeah, your spirit team. Right. Your spirit team. They're all there for you. They really are. And even, you know, the loved ones who have transitioned.

SPEAKER_03 38:33

Right.

SPEAKER_00 38:34

You know, they're part of your spirit team too. So you can always call on them.

SPEAKER_02 38:37

Right.

SPEAKER_00 38:37

Always call on them.

SPEAKER_02 38:38

Yeah. Yeah. I I have a deepening bench of angels on my family. We all do.

SPEAKER_00 38:45

We have a huge each person has we have each have very big spirit teams. If you want to access them at any point, you just have to give them permission to help you.

SPEAKER_02 38:53

Okay.

Fear And The Myth Of One Session

SPEAKER_02 38:54

So let's talk about just some of the misunderstandings that can come into this kind of process. Like, what would you want people to know about the the this uh shamanic spiritual surgery that they might, you know, be too quick to write it off?

SPEAKER_00 39:14

I mean, I think maybe one of the misconceptions could be, well, I think it's all based on fear, to be quite honest with you.

SPEAKER_03 39:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 39:20

Is that um I think most people are afraid of doing a session because they know deep down without really admitting it to themselves, that it is really gonna crack them open.

SPEAKER_03 39:33

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 39:33

It's gonna show them a lot of things and it's gonna show them a lot of truths that they may not be ready for.

SPEAKER_03 39:38

Right.

SPEAKER_00 39:39

So they don't do it. Right. But I'll plant the seed.

SPEAKER_03 39:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 39:43

Because I know at some point they'll be called to it, right?

SPEAKER_03 39:46

Right.

SPEAKER_00 39:46

So that's that's one of the things I think is kind of a misconception, but it's not even a misconception, it's more based on the fear.

SPEAKER_03 39:53

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 39:53

I think the other misconception is that it's gonna be um a one and done.

SPEAKER_03 39:57

Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 39:57

Just like anything in life, right? Nothing is a one and done.

SPEAKER_03 40:01

No.

SPEAKER_00 40:01

This is, I mean, when you do a session with me, the first session, yes, it'll crack you open and there'll be a lot of information that is shared on every level.

SPEAKER_03 40:10

Right. Right.

SPEAKER_00 40:10

Again, mind, body, spirit, energetically, all the things because that portal is open, that sacred portal, when I open it, I mean, it is open.

SPEAKER_03 40:19

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 40:19

Um, but it's not a one and done because the healing work is not one and done. Like, trust me, if I would be a I would be a multi-billionaire right now, if I could literally you come to me and you just do one session and it's like one and done.

SPEAKER_03 40:39

Of course, right?

SPEAKER_00 40:42

I mean, yeah, I I mean, I would I would sign up for that too. Yeah, if somebody was like, come to me, it's one and done.

SPEAKER_02 40:48

Yeah, and I and yet I think the point is, as far as I can tell, based on things that I've learned to this point, is that we learn best through repetition.

SPEAKER_01 40:58

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 40:58

And our mind, the one thing about it that is limited is it can only expand so much at a time. Yes, right. And that's why repetition is important.

SPEAKER_00 41:11

Um and the unveiling, uh what I have found with clients that have come back to me multiple times and continue to come back to me is that there's a it's almost like a slow unveiling of the information for each person.

SPEAKER_02 41:22

There you go. Like because they all gets lifted.

SPEAKER_00 41:25

Yes, little by little. Because if they gave you everything, I don't even think you'd be able to sit and really process any of it because it's just so overwhelming.

SPEAKER_07 41:32

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 41:33

Because it encompasses not only this particular lifetime and the traumas and the the ties that you have with certain people, right? Right. But it encompasses all these other lifetimes. It's a lot of information.

SPEAKER_03 41:47

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 41:47

To connect those dots and process it and be like, oh, now I know why, right? It's a lot. So it's it is it's an unveiling little by little, and then things just start to naturally unfold.

SPEAKER_02 41:58

Right. And your nervous system can only handle so much at a time. Absolutely. It's the other parts, too. Right? It's weird. Absolutely. Because we really want to always make sure we do this in a way that helps it feel safe.

SPEAKER_00 42:09

Safe and it's gentle.

SPEAKER_02 42:11

Right.

SPEAKER_00 42:11

As much as possible. Right. Right. Yeah. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 42:14

It's incredible.

SPEAKER_00 42:15

It's an unfolding for sure.

Women’s Awakening And Sacred Rage

SPEAKER_02 42:17

So I want to talk again about the divine feminine in terms of like what's happening right now that women are finally awakening. Talk a little bit about why so many women are awakening right now.

SPEAKER_00 42:30

I mean, there is a massive energetic shift that is happening collectively. It is not just an individual experience. It is global.

SPEAKER_05 42:43

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 42:43

And it's not even, it has nothing to do with where you are in your life. It has nothing to do with age, nothing. Women are being called to not only fully step into who they truly are, they're really reclaim their sovereignty and their power, reclaim their voice, and to really start to do the healing work so that they can fully step into who they are meant to be in this particular lifetime.

SPEAKER_05 43:12

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 43:12

And to really get clear about what their purpose is. You know, what is it that they're supposed to be doing in this particular lifetime? Right. And so there is this collective energetic shift that is happening where women are just, it's almost like this awakening. Again, it's like this veil that we've all had. I I what I always kind of see is this kind of collective amnesia that's happened for everybody.

SPEAKER_03 43:42

Right.

SPEAKER_00 43:43

Not just women, but also for men. We are in, you know, when you incarnate in this lifetime, there's this kind of veil that gets put over you. So you really don't remember who you truly are and the gifts that you have.

SPEAKER_03 43:53

Right.

SPEAKER_00 43:53

But there has been this collective amnesia where there has been a level of brainwashing where we have. Have believed certain things about ourselves and the world around us that has limited us, right? These belief systems and culturally, societally has put us in very specific categories and boxes where now women are really seeing beyond this. Again, that curtain has been pulled back.

SPEAKER_03 44:24

Right.

SPEAKER_00 44:24

And you're really seeing everything for what it is. And again, there's no going back once you see it. Right. And so that's why there's this kind of like feminine, divine feminine energy rising where there's this rage. The rage is really important for women because we have been, we have been suppressed in so many ways. Right. Mind, body, and spirit have been squashed for so long, for generations and lifetimes. Yes. That forget, forget grief.

SPEAKER_03 44:56

Right.

SPEAKER_00 44:56

The rage is coming up.

SPEAKER_03 44:58

Right.

SPEAKER_00 44:59

And being able to fully express that rage is so important for women to reclaim their power, but also to be able to fully start to heal. It is so important that rage to acknowledge that you have that rage.

SPEAKER_02 45:15

I think what's so incredible is it's been historically suppressed.

SPEAKER_00 45:18

Oh my God.

SPEAKER_02 45:19

As a way to control the feminine energy.

SPEAKER_00 45:23

Well, the well, the the root word of hysteria, right? Hysteria, hysterectomy, that's what they would do. When they thought women were like, you know, hysterical, they would give them hysterectomies.

SPEAKER_02 45:35

Right. Incredible.

SPEAKER_00 45:37

Just think about that connection.

SPEAKER_02 45:39

Yeah. And then burning them at the at the burning them at the stake.

SPEAKER_00 45:43

Giving them lomotomies, medicating them. Right. Right.

SPEAKER_02 45:47

Right.

SPEAKER_00 45:47

But think of how power this is really women, once we reclaim not only our power and our sovereignty, and you and we all realize that our womb, the sacral, is one of the most powerful portals. This is it. Creation.

SPEAKER_03 46:08

Right.

SPEAKER_00 46:08

Nothing happens without this portal. This is creation. I was watching a video and this woman said, and it resonated so deeply with me. She said, really, what this planet is all about is just mothers and their children.

SPEAKER_02 46:21

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 46:22

And I was like, oh my God, she is so right.

SPEAKER_02 46:25

Right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 46:26

It's like it's so simple, but I was like, that is so true.

SPEAKER_02 46:31

True. Right. So being able to connect and and get in alignment with the sacral energy.

SPEAKER_00 46:38

The sacral, the heart and the third eye.

SPEAKER_02 46:41

Right.

SPEAKER_00 46:42

Wow. I mean, when you align, when your nervous system is calibrated and you those three, I mean, obviously all the seven chakras, but like those three in particular are just connected and flowing.

SPEAKER_03 46:54

Right.

SPEAKER_00 46:55

Forget it.

SPEAKER_03 46:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 46:56

I mean, you are magical. I mean, we're magical anyway, but like forget it. The the manifestations and what you are able to create, unstoppable.

SPEAKER_02 47:06

Incredible.

SPEAKER_00 47:06

Unstoppable.

SPEAKER_02 47:07

Yeah.

Reclaiming Gifts After Self-Suppression

SPEAKER_02 47:08

I think, you know, one of the things I've learned and come to appreciate is that I participated at a certain stage in my life with I stopped talking about what I knew to be true. And I just gave over my power to my husband, to his belief systems, to his family systems. And uh up until that point, you know, we had had a lot of conflict because it was very clear as we grew older that we were just really, really different. And um What were you suppressing?

SPEAKER_00 47:49

What were the belief systems for you that you were suppressing?

SPEAKER_02 47:52

I was suppressing that about my unique gifts and qualities that for me at that stage were very physical. I was getting um really drawn into performing at a very high athletic level, yet it created a lot of conflict within my marriage. And and instead of, you know, as as someone who was well trained, and we talked about this earlier, to keep the peace, right, to make other people feel safe with me, I subjugated myself and and it was too familiar. I have done this in many, many lifetimes, you know, as an as an attempt to to not be a threat.

SPEAKER_01 48:40

Yes. Make yourself small.

SPEAKER_02 48:42

Right. And right. And so I can t I I began a uh a decade or two of contraction. And and and the funny thing is, is that when you're really meant for something more to a lot of other people, you'll look like you are very uh high performing, like you really are creating a lot of incredible stuff. Right. And um however, what I wasn't allowing was this this alignment of mind, body, and spirit or the healing of my nervous system. So I was any any belief that would come up that was about healing, any thought about it was really like I'll only do this if it w help my my marriage get better.

SPEAKER_04 49:34

Right.

SPEAKER_02 49:35

I'll only do this for that.

SPEAKER_04 49:36

Right.

SPEAKER_02 49:37

I wasn't thinking that this was a deeper purpose that I was being called for, right? And and the way that it was being reflected back to me is it would expand just to a point.

SPEAKER_00 49:50

Yeah, and then it would contract back.

SPEAKER_02 49:51

And then it would contract back. That was like the fear snap, right?

SPEAKER_00 49:55

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 49:56

And so only on this side of my uh my life and that dark night of the soul process that you described, have I realized, wow, like the reason why my life is expanding in much big fast ways now is because I'm not afraid anymore. I'm not allowing my beliefs to be subjugated by anyone or anything. And I'm really finally embracing wherever this takes me as being the path that I'm meant to be on.

SPEAKER_04 50:29

Right.

SPEAKER_02 50:30

And and it's such a freeing feeling. At the same time, I realize what it does is it it opens me up to meeting other like-minded people, like yourself, like other people that I've gotten to work with and learn from, and to collectively we're seeing the healing process just unfold universally.

SPEAKER_00 50:55

Absolutely. And opening yourself up to just receive all the beautiful guidance and information that you you were meant to receive.

SPEAKER_03 51:01

Right.

SPEAKER_00 51:01

And just have it be this really beautiful flow of this, you know, energetic, symbiotic reciprocity that's that happens that just is like you don't even have to force it in any way.

SPEAKER_02 51:11

Because I think what's interesting, you know, I mentioned I'm from a big family, my mother was Guatemala, my mother, therefore, is Mayan, was Mayan, and Mayan lineage is in our family. Well, I there's a lot of intuitive, shamanic um healing that is in that lineage. And um, and I never quite embraced it the way I do now. And so, you know, in my family, my mother was one, I have a c few sisters that um chose to shut down their their access to this information through addictions. And um I for a while had an addictive path, but I was always meant for bigger things that I was guided away from those shadows, away from that bondage. I have, you know, and it's always amazed me. I called it being guided by grace. Really, I think the um the sacred uh contract that I wrote with these plant medicines that they were put on my path the right time. Yes. To bring me forward in a different way.

SPEAKER_00 52:32

Absolutely to bring you back on your timeline of your highest growth.

SPEAKER_02 52:36

That's right.

SPEAKER_00 52:36

Your highest timeline.

SPEAKER_02 52:38

It's incredible. It's incredible, and I can see it, like I can feel it when we were just talking the other day, and I said to you, you know what the most incredible part about all this is that um we are awakening along with a lot of other powerful beings, men and women, but mostly women. And I get so excited when I meet other women that are doing this work.

SPEAKER_00 53:05

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 53:06

And it just is like, finally, yes, these are my people.

SPEAKER_00 53:09

Yes. And you just feel such a deep, immediate connection. That's right. That's how it was when I met you. Again, without even using any words. That's right. You just feel it in your heart. You literally do. You feel it energetically.

Overproductivity And Oversharing As Trauma

SPEAKER_00 53:21

Yeah the one thing I want to actually bring up, because you brought it up, is that I want people to know that over being overproductive is actually trauma response.

SPEAKER_02 53:33

Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 53:34

Right? Just like oversharing is a trauma response. So I think for people, especially now, I think the oversharing, especially, well, New York City, right, is like the there's the is like the heart of over overproductivity and being that the that being the measurement of who you are and what you do, all the things, like your value.

SPEAKER_03 53:55

Right.

SPEAKER_00 53:56

But because of social media, everyone is so used to oversharing for validation, external validation, but not really truly realizing that it's actually a trauma response. And I'm sure we all know a lot of people, right, right, who either are beyond overproductive, can never slow down. Yeah, they always have to be doing something. My mother was they can never s really sit still with themselves because again, it's too uncomfortable.

SPEAKER_02 54:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 54:27

So they always need to be distracted in some way, good or bad, quote unquote good or bad. And then the people who, you know, overshare, they like just it's almost like word vomit where they just can't stop sharing or talking. Right. But that's that's you know, those are, you know, I just want people to know that like, and it's not in any way to shame anybody.

SPEAKER_03 54:46

Right.

SPEAKER_00 54:47

Because I think the more that you're aware of it, right, that actually empowers you to actually take a step back and be like, okay, yeah, I noticed that about myself. Right. That self-awareness is key.

SPEAKER_02 55:01

Yeah, the way um uh it showed up for me was that I would overshare as a result of a tr attempting to push someone away. I thought it was a way to bond us, not understanding what trauma bonds really mean.

SPEAKER_00 55:16

My God, you totally did the opposite. Right. Yeah, because people trauma bond by oversharing.

SPEAKER_02 55:20

Right. And and I was doing it because of abandonment wounds, and I I kind of have come to this conclusion that if I share all of my wounds with you, you'll you'll go away.

SPEAKER_00 55:32

Right, you won't love me.

SPEAKER_02 55:33

And then I won't have, you know, won't be as painful as if I loved you and then you went away. Yes. So yeah, it's interesting how that works. Yeah.

Reinvention Stories And Body Truth

SPEAKER_02 55:42

But I think that what um, you know, as we wind up here, that I want to just sort of help people connect was this is that healing is possible, right? Yes, reinvention is possible, right? And and it's necessary. Yes. Right. And that um there are so many ways to heal, yet the important thing is to begin. Yes. To begin.

SPEAKER_00 56:06

It is such an act of bravery to fully step into your healing journey, yeah. Knowing that it's not gonna be easy, it won't be smooth, it's nonlinear.

SPEAKER_03 56:18

Right.

SPEAKER_00 56:18

But reinventing yourself is powerful and magical. You cannot even fully comprehend what is waiting for you when you cross that threshold. It really will unfold in ways that you could have never anticipated or expected. I would have never ever thought. I mean, I was always clairvoyant, always had visions, you know, um, you know, very, very um pre-cog dreams, you know, all the things, right? Like I had a lot of intuition, like all the things. I would have never anticipated that this is this is where I'm at right now in my life.

SPEAKER_02 56:58

Same, same, right, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 57:01

Never would have guessed.

SPEAKER_02 57:02

Right.

SPEAKER_00 57:02

Never would have guessed.

SPEAKER_02 57:03

I I would agree with you. I think it's it's hard for for women, particularly in this society, that we've been so entrained to doubt ourselves, to doubt our gifts, to think that something as a real lucid dream or a recurring dream is more than just that.

SPEAKER_01 57:25

Yes. Right?

SPEAKER_02 57:26

Yes. And and I think that that's that's the thing that's really important to keep in mind.

SPEAKER_00 57:30

And really to not be afraid of doing that, you know, sometimes very difficult and painful self-examination. Right. You know, because reinventing yourself, it is scary in the moment as you're going through the process. But man, I don't even know because I'm so in it right now in the thick of it, I don't even know, because I think about like what I would feel like being on like my deathbed, right?

SPEAKER_03 57:58

Right.

SPEAKER_00 57:59

And like looking back on my life and being like, why didn't I, why didn't I kind of, you know, swerve and pivot into that other timeline, right? When I was given that opportunity and and shown so clearly that this is what I was supposed to be doing.

SPEAKER_07 58:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 58:12

I can't even imagine not taking that leap of faith.

SPEAKER_03 58:17

Right.

SPEAKER_00 58:17

Right? Yeah. Even if you're kicking and screaming, doing it, but knowing deep down that like there's a there's a a different path for you if you choose. If you choose, again, it's a choice point.

SPEAKER_02 58:29

So let me tell you, I think I've already shared the story with you, but I wanted to include it in this uh uh conversation is that I've always had a an uh a fear of heights. And I never understood it because as a kid I could climb trees, I could scale up and and just hang out perched. And and yet the older I got, the more fearful my nervous system, my body came with certain heights. And anyway, part of the healing work, I've talked to many, many different types of of people from different modalities, uh, what that really is about. And what I would have, and I believe this to be true, is that my nervous system do knows that in my history, which is what the nervous system is built on, that I have jumped many, many times. Yes. So it's not a fear of heights, it's a fear that I'm gonna jump.

SPEAKER_01 59:22

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 59:22

Right? Yes. And so I get a tingling in my toes and my feet every time I'm at a certain height. And and so I I'm really just so like I f I find that so funny and yet so right on. Yes, that I have reinvented myself so many times in so many timelines, yes, that the tingling happens at my feet when I'm at a certain level. Yes, because it's ready for me to jump into another timeline or another lifeline.

SPEAKER_00 59:53

Absolutely, physically and metaphorically, right? That's right. I mean, it's really it's so interesting what your body remembers. Your body, yeah, as we all know, body keeps the score, but your body always tells you the truth.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:04

Always tells you the truth.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:06

I think it's great. I think it's great.

Rapid Fire Wisdom And Divine Timing

SPEAKER_02 1:00:08

So let's get into what I call rapid fire. Okay. I'm gonna give you a first part of the sentence and then I want you to finish it. Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:14

Healing is um healing is necessary, empowering, okay, and spiritual.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:31

Fantastic. Women need to remember.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:35

Oh gosh. Women need to remember how magical and powerful they are. Oh, we are such powerful and magical beings on every level.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:53

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:54

We can do anything. Yes, yes, this planet would not exist without women and the matriarchy.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:03

There you go. There you go. Amen. One thing I know for sure today that I didn't know 10 years ago is that I know nothing.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:11

That I thought I knew, because that type A was like trying to control everything and thought I knew what the end point was gonna be. And it has shown me time and time again, especially within the last, you know, four or five years, right, that I really don't know anything. And that really, it really is truly just like the blind faith and the trust is just trusting, trusting that it's going to unfold the way it's supposed to.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:39

And that divine timing is a real thing. Wow. It is a real thing.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:43

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:44

It will unfold the way it's supposed to for you, and the people will come into your path who are supposed to come into your path.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:49

Amen. Amen. Thank goodness for that. So, then where can people find out more about your work and and you?

SPEAKER_00 1:01:57

Yeah,

How To Reach Min And Closing

SPEAKER_00 1:01:58

so I am not on social media. I mean, my I do, I am on social media with my old podcast, which is my um Mindful Trip Official.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:06

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:07

So I'm on Instagram and TikTok and YouTube. But um, you know, if people are interested, if they, you know, want to have a conversation with me or if they want to come and do a session or curious about a session, I'm happy to have a chat with them.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:20

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:20

They can reach me um at my email, which is MJL820 at gmail.com.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:29

Okay. So we'll make sure wonderful. We'll make sure all that's listed in the show notes. Um Okay. So thank you for joining us for this conversation. I'm really grateful that you were here, man. This has been so amazing. If today's episode resonated with you, I hope it reminds you that healing is possible, reinvention is possible, and that there is wisdom available for all of us to help us expand and grow into the best version of ourselves. If you're looking for support on your healing process or transition in life at this moment, please remember to check out what's available at anamcbride.com and you can set yourself up for a complimentary consultation with me and learn more about all the things that we offer at that website. You've been listening to She Asks Tools for Practical Hope. Until soon, be well.